Q&A
with Cate Shortland, writer and director of Somersault
Interview by Chris Tinkham

Cate Shortland didn’t grow up dreaming of becoming a filmmaker
or rubbing shoulders with international celebrities at the Cannes
Film Festival, but that’s where the Australian director
found herself two years ago when her feature-length debut, Somersault,
premiered as a selection in the festival’s Un Certain Regard,
a category that favors new talent. Somersault, which
went on to win all 13 Australian Film Institute (AFI) Awards for
2004, is a breathtaking showcase for the skills of its filmmakers
and cast, particularly Shortland and lead actress Abbie Cornish,
who plays Heidi, a character embellished by Shortland long before
production on Somersault commenced. Cornish’s embodiment
of the character is so penetrating, it’s not surprising
that Shortland, when interviewed, still speaks of Heidi as if
she’s flesh and blood, or that she once mistakenly refers
to Cornish the actress as Heidi. I spoke with Shortland by phone
days before the U.S. theatrical release of Somersault.
Has it really been 10 years since you began conceiving the script
for Somersault?
What
happened was, it started as a short film idea that was probably
going to be like a 10-minute film. And then I spoke to Anthony
Anderson, who was a friend of mine, who ended up producing the
film, and told him the story, which was way different to what
it is now, but it had a similar theme, and he said he felt maybe
I should write it out to be like a half-hour drama. And then I
did that, and then it just seemed to continue. So the idea came
to me when I was making short films, but it wasn’t as a
feature film.
Could you have imagined that you’d still be talking
about this idea 10 years later?
No.
I didn’t imagine four years ago that I was even going to
make the film. It was really Anthony pushing me to do the last
draft. ‘Cause I was ready to give it away, and it was Anthony
pushing me to get the draft out again and have another look and
to start fresh that got me excited about it again. So I’m
so grateful to him.

How did you meet Anthony?
I met him at about four o’clock in the morning crossing
the street. He’d just been a waiter at a party, and he’d
gone to pick up a coffee and newspaper, and I was crossing the
street with a group of friends, and we were on our way to another
party, and he said, “Oh, I’ll come with you.”
And that’s how I met him. So I met him on a traffic island
at one of Australia’s busiest streets, Oxford Street, in
Darlinghurst.
Were you in interested in becoming a filmmaker long before
you began studying it?
No. What I really wanted to do, thought about doing, was being
a photographer, and I had friends that were photographers, and
I hung out with photographers. I hung out in photography studios,
and then I started doing film theory, and it was like all the
ideas came together when I started doing film theory, like the
idea of making images telling stories and actually having a meaning
out of those stories. ‘Cause what I was watching when I
was doing film theory was, I suppose, heavy European films. And
what I’d been brought up on was a steady diet of commercial
American film. So that really challenged me—I was about
a 20-year-old—to just open my eyes as to what was out there.
You had made some well-received short films before shooting Somersault,
but you also directed some television episodes.
Yeah. I was eight months out of film school and couldn't get a
job and wasn’t sure what I was gonna do, and was asked if
I’d come in and speak to these people about this show called
The Secret Life
of Us. And [I] spoke to them, and then they asked me
to do the first episode of the show. And I was really floored
by that, working with a full crew. And it was in another city.
It was in Melbourne, and living away from my home just seemed
like a massive leap, but it ended up being fantastic. ‘Cause
it was really, really hard and really stressful and it taught
me a lot about working with crews and getting results really quickly,
which is what you have to do on low-budget filmmaking as well.
I was wondering if you had difficulty transitioning from
film to TV and back to film, but evidently it served you well
to have this experience going into your first feature.
Yeah, and then I’ve done another mini-series which has just
gone to air in Australia.
What's that called?
The Silence.
It was two parts, so I directed both episodes.

Did Somersault have its public debut at Cannes?
Yeah,
in Un Certain Regard.
What was that experience like?
It’s
like tripping I suppose. It’s like you can’t believe
that you’re there,
and everything is so surreal and it’s so outside of your
ordinary experience. It’s kind of wonderful. It’s
not about filmmaking; it’s something else completely different.
And also the French treat it as an art form, which really in Australia
we don’t. And that was refreshing. It was a really beautiful
experience, but it’s just so out of the ordinary. Cannes
is filled with like Russian mafiosos and starlets, and then it’s
got art house cinema and it’s got pornography; it’s
got everything. So it was kind of a wild experience, a great experience.
Were you able to watch the film with the French audience?
Yeah,
I watched it the night it screened in Un Certain Regard. And that
was really beautiful. That was probably the best
screening that we’ve ever had in terms of the emotion of
the screening. The audience was really emotional and showed such
beautiful generosity to us, which was great.
Who else from the cast and crew was able to share that
with you?
Jan
Chapman, who's our executive producer, and Abbie who plays Heidi,
and Sam [Worthington] who plays Joe, and Anthony. And Decoder
Ring were also there, who did the music.
How
did they end up doing the music for Somersault?
The editor, Scott Gray, had a friend that worked in a record store,
and he suggested to Scott to have a listen to this new kind of
electronic music, to see if it would work for the film, because
they’re really influenced by cinema. And one of the members
of the band doesn’t actually play an instrument; what he
does is collect archival footage and he projects that during the
concert. They compose to image, so that was kind of how we came
to them. And then we met them, and just their knowledge and also
the depth of emotion that they could bring to it was really beautiful.
Because it’s not like traditional score; it’s very
minimal and that was also important to me, that it wasn’t
sort of strings and piano, that it kind of had a different feel
to it.
And then there were the AFI awards. How gratifying was
that?
It
was really great, but it was also a difficult time in Australia
in film. And what was causing a lot of the problems was that we
didn’t make a lot of films that year, and also the films
we were making didn’t get a strong critical or audience
response. So it was kind of hard for me, because I made this film
in this year that wasn’t seen as a great year. It was kind
of a double-edged sword. Our film actually got a fantastic critical
response in Australia and overseas, but the actual atmosphere
in Australia at that time in the filmmaking community wasn’t
great. So it was sometimes a little bit difficult.
In the press notes I read that Heidi was partly based
on a girl you observed when working with children. But then I
also read that she was based on a girl you worked with in a jeans
shop.
Yeah,
she’s a bit of both. The girl I worked with in the jeans
shop was actually called Heidi, but I worked with emotionally
disturbed kids for a few years, and we had this beautiful little
girl there that was about, I think, 13, and would always go missing,
and she’d be on buses and in the city, and the police would
be called, and we’d have to go and get her. But what she’d
often do is just approach men, like businessmen or the milkman,
or a guy sitting at a bus stop, and she’d sit down and start
talking to him and say, “What’s your name?”
and “My name’s Heidi,” and then she would say,
“Where are you going?” and this guy would say, “Oh,
I'm going home,” and she’d say, “Oh, can I come
with you?” So she was really, really damaged. But also what
she’d do was, she’d climb bridges and get on top of
buildings and— yeah, she was really mixed up, but incredibly
smart and never really felt sorry for herself. It sounds strange,
but she had a really strong sense of herself, and I always remembered
her and I found her very inspiring.
Do you have any idea what became of her?
No, I don’t. I really hope that she ended up OK. ‘Cause
half of her was so strong and yet the other half, you know, she’d
had such terrible things happen to her. So you don’t know
which side actually won out in the end, or if someone took advantage—too
much advantage.

In every synopsis I've read of Somersault, it
mentions that Heidi is 16 years old. Do you think this is obvious
to the viewer just by watching the film?
She was actually 15, but we put it up to 16 for the censors in
Australia. So we scripted it as 15. Why, do you think she seems
older?
It wasn’t until after seeing the film that I read that Heidi
is 16, and it came
as a surprise to me. I thought maybe I missed something that told
me that she’s 16. So I was just wondering if indeed there
is something in the film to tell us that.
No, there’s not. In a way, it wouldn’t matter to me
if she was 13 or 17. Because what she’s doing, she could
be those ages. It’s the damage that she sort of causes herself
and the experiences that she’s having, and the feelings
that she has, it’s— you know, I know women that are
29 that are still almost doing what she’s doing, the mistakes
that she’s making. The great thing about her is, for me,
that she has this fantastic love of detail and love of
imagery and has this interior life that is really untouched, and
I think that’s kind of her strength. So her age, there’s
nothing I suppose in the film that gives it away; she’s,
in a way, a generic teenager.
The scene when Bianca's father drives Heidi to the lake,
is it up to the viewer to determine what happens between them
there, or in your eyes is it pretty straightforward?
No, I think it’s up to the viewer, because some people would
think that he dropped her home, and other people would think that
something else happened between them. So yeah, I like leaving
things like that up to the viewer.
I hope it’s OK to tell you this, but the first time
I saw Somersault, I found myself reacting to some scenes
the same way as when I saw Lynne Ramsay's Morvern
Callar. I wanted to know if you had seen that film before
shooting Somersault?
Yeah, I did actually. I saw it about a couple weeks before we
were filming. And I met Lynne Ramsay when we were in post-production.
She came out to Australia, and we spoke to each other about what
we were doing. Yeah, I liked Morvern Callar a lot. I'm
excited to see what she does next.
Is it coincidence that I saw some similarities, or do
you think her film had some kind of influence?
Um,
[extended pause] I found it really inspiring when I saw it, but
it wasn’t like we watched it and went, “Oh, we should
do this, or this, or this.” What I loved about it was that
she was really strong to her vision. The film to me has such integrity,
and it’s really fresh, and all of those things I found incredibly
inspiring. I found it really contemporary and, I don’t know,
just filled with this beautiful usefulness. Nothing stodgy or
staid about it, and not hung up on narrative, and I loved that.
That kind of gave me strength. And it was more about emotion than
the three-act structure, or moving from one incident to the next.
Whenever you see stuff like that, you just think, “Ah, God.”
You just want to be stronger, want to be a stronger filmmaker.
On set, who required more of your attention: Abbie Cornish
or Robert Humphreys?
Sam Worthington, by far. ‘Cause Bob Humphreys and I have
worked for like 10 years, so there’s hardly any real communication
between us on set. We spend our Sundays together. So we were doing
six-day shoots, and then Bob and I would have breakfast and then
meet up and spend like five hours together, and then go through
the next week’s shoot, so that when we’re on set we
don’t have to speak. Because we don’t have enough
time to speak. We shot the film in five weeks, so it was pretty
rushed. But definitely the person I spoke the most to was Sam
Worthington, when I sometimes felt terrible because I took it
for granted often that Abbie knew what she was doing.
Was it that you felt pretty sure about how Abbie was doing?
Yeah,
she kind of knew what she was doing from the very first day she
came in for casting. She had this amazing instinct when it came
to Heidi. All the other girls came in and they were flirting,
and Abbie came in and she played her really straight and really
contained, and it was just so spot on that the only times she
and I would really discuss in depth on set how we were gonna change
something was [when] I’d say, “Are you using that
voice?” And that voice was this kind of, it’s almost
like a teenage girl’s voice. It’s a pleading voice
or a sort of a whiny voice, and Heidi never uses that voice. Her
delivery should always be really flat. Yeah, that’s where
Abbie and I spoke the most, ‘cause we had three weeks work
rehearsal, so we really, really talked a lot in rehearsal.
One
of my favorite moments in Abbie’s performance is Heidi's
reaction to her name tag at the BP. She’s holding back this
smile.
Yeah,
she’s so proud of it.
Were
there points during the filming when the landscape or weather
conditions dictated scenes that were not in the shooting script?
The
way we shot the film, we overexposed the film two stops when we
were shooting, and then when we processed the film we had to pull
it back two stops. So what it meant was, when we were shooting,
we couldn’t shoot in direct sunlight; otherwise, the film
would actually burn out. And that caused us massive problems ‘cause
we could only shoot our exterior scenes either in shadow or in
the mornings or the [evenings]. There’s very few things
shot in the middle of the day ‘cause the Australian sun
is so strong. One thing we were very lucky with though is the
snow came very late that year, so when we arrived we were all
wearing t-shirts and walking around thinking, “Aw, we’re
never ever gonna to get any snow.” And then I think it snowed
for about three weeks. And we were at the base of the snow field,
so there wasn’t much snow where we were, but what we were
doing was trucking it down, and then the art department would
scoop it out and put it around.
When Heidi’s leaving town on the bus, there’s a flash
of light that looks almost as if film stock had run out. Was that
the case?
No, I think it’s the sun dipping and coming out suddenly,
and we cut on the sun popping out.

Were there any times when you were on location and you saw something
that made you think, “Oh, I've got to shoot this,”
even though it wasn’t in the script? Or was the budget so
tight that you couldn't really—
No,
that’s kind of how we shoot a lot of stuff because we shoot
it a little bit like a documentary. And if there was a beautiful
sky or something that we wanted to shoot, we’d end up using
that location in that way. It’s really fluid the way that
we try and work; nothing’s locked down, nothing’s
storyboarded. And Bob Humphreys, his background is like 20 years
of documentary cinematography. So he’s just such a pleasure
to work with because you can change things on the spur of the
moment. Of course, you can’t light one way and then suddenly
say to Bob, “Oh, actually I want to turn the other way.”
But you can pretty much change things quite dramatically, and
he won’t complain. He’ll go with it because it’s
what is needed in the scene.
Who was responsible for putting together Heidi’s
diary for the shoot?
That was our art department, and they hired a young girl who was
at art school. And then Melinda Doring, who was our production
designer, and this young girl and I, just all talked about diaries
and looked at different young girls’ diaries, and that’s
how we put it together. And Abbie also had a big input into the
diary. Abbie actually did a lot of collages that you see in the
film; they’re Abbie's work, so that’s really great.
And
the text that was written in it?
That
was all scripted. Like the featured text, the stuff you actually
can read, that was scripted. But all the other stuff we just made
up.
I
think I saw a reference to someone named Jack in there.
Yeah, it’s probably like her granddad.
Are
you working on a script or film now?
Yeah,
I’m working on a film set in Baltimore called Patchwork
Planet. And I’m working on a British book, adapting
that. And
I’m working on a film set in Bali which I’m writing.
Wow, you have a lot on you plate right now.
I do, yeah, pretty busy.
I was in Baltimore about a week ago visiting my sister.
Is it a great place? I can’t wait to go there now. I’m
really looking forward to it.
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