The Helio Sequence
Young Loud and Effectual
Words by Marcus Kagler
Theres a short introductory article on The Helio Sequence on page 90 of Issue 4 of Under the Radar. Below is the full article on the band, based on the same interview.
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We recently made the front page of our local newspaper in Beaverton, Oregon, says vocalist/guitarist Brandon Summers of the duo The Helio Sequence. Were recording our new album in a bedroom above the garage of my parents house right now and weve had some major complaints so far.
Yeah, but the newspaper story was about this rooster that was loose in the neighborhood, laughs the bands other half and drummer Benjamin Weikel. People were complaining because the rooster was waking them up really early in the morning. This made the front page which is ridiculous. A story about a rooster. Anyway, there was a quote from this one girl who lives next door and she said, I dont mind the rooster. The band playing the loud music next door is much more annoying than the rooster.
Its a cloudless and sunny afternoon in Los Angeles and Summers and Weikel are in the middle of scarfing down burritos at a Mexican restaurant on the Sunset Strip. The two boys who make up the Helio Sequence look like they havent gotten a decent nights sleep in days. Considering theyve been on their first headlining tour for the past few weeks they probably havent. The guys have recently arrived in town fresh off of a sold out show at South by Southwest and freely admit to living it up on tour as much as humanly possible. Once they return home its back to the room above the garage in order finish their untitled third album. The first thing one notices upon meeting Brandon Summers and Benjamin Weikel is how young they look. Indeed, Summers is the ripe old age of 23 while Weikel is the elder of the two at 26. Having already released two incredibly profound and dense albums its hard to believe these two young kids are such seasoned artists. But if youve already heard The Helio Sequence peculiar brand of electro-garage-space-rock then you know they are no novelty. Yes, Summers was only 17 when the band released their first full length album Com Plex but The Helio Sequence are a far cry from Hanson. This Oregon duos sound leans more toward the complex avant-garde textures of My Bloody Valentine mixed with the lap-top generated burps and splutters of German electronic gurus Mouse On Mars, than bubble-gum teen pop. Not only are they an incredibly talented pair of musicians but The Helio Sequence have gone the extra mile by producing all of their own material too. If anything, Summers and Weikel are the prototype for the new generation of do-it-yourself-because-youre-poor-but-the-albums-sound-professional batch of musicians that have been sweeping Americas underground music scene for the past few years. Oh yeah, and they also like to play at an ungodly volume level. Going to a Helio Sequence show will certainly test the endurance of your eardrums.
We play loud because it feels good, says Summers, munching on a tortilla chip. Guitars are supposed to be played loud. So is a drum set and thats how we play them.
We like to rock the PA until it fizzles, says Weikel with a devilish grin. There are just certain textures from a guitar you cant hear unless there is a certain amount of volume. Its just a great sound you dont get if you play quiet.
If you witnessed their intensely energetic and kinetic live show at the Knitting Factory that night (or any of their other live shows) the first thing you will think to yourself after they wrap the set is, Wow! That was amazing...and really fucking loud! Of course, thats if you can hear yourself think. Hailing from the Portland, Oregon suburb of Beaverton (claim to fame: the home of Nike world headquarters) the boys of The Helio Sequence had a humble beginning to say the least. I was really good friends with Bens younger brother, says Summers. Ben was the older brother who was old enough to be in bands that actually played clubs and stuff. So me and Bens brother would sneak in and play with their gear when they werent practicing. I guess eventually Ben and I just started working together.
It was because my brother was dating his sister and they would be up all night talking on the phone, elaborates Weikel. So Brandon would come over to my place and spend the night and we would stay up watching Bohemian After Dark. We liked that show because they would play Aphex Twin and My Bloody Valentine videos. You know, the weird ones.
Although they didnt have a name for the band Summers and Weikel began recording what Weikel calls super-ridiculously ambient textural stuff or really straight on Beatles pop shit with lots of harmonies yet the songs never quite came together as the band thought they should. Their first unofficial gig was something of a family affair. The first time we played was at this family picnic on my side of the family, recalls Summers. I was like 15 at the time and I didnt have a band so I went to Ben and was like, My mom wants us to play this picnic and I got this cool idea. Ben was in another band at the time, but he had all this keyboard stuff that he wasn't using at the time. He was really getting into keyboards. So we figured, Well, well sequence keyboards and mess with that. So at the picnic we plugged all these keyboards into a monitor about the size of a CD.
Everyone had to be real quiet so I could hear it, says Weikel with a chuckle.
This was in like 1995. We only played a couple of songs because thats all we had. Then we went through the super-ambient stuff and the super-Beatles recordings. Around 1998 we decided to do this musical turn.
The shift from the ambient/Beatles songs was when the Helio Sequence began to take their job seriously. Not only did they finally find a name for themselves, but they also discovered their own sound. It may have taken them a few years of experimentation, but in late 98 the band stumbled upon a sound that (as far as they could tell) nobody else was doing. To accurately describe The Helio Sequence is something of a monumental task. There are so many different genres, textures, and over all sonic combustion going on within any given Helio Sequence track that its hard to slap a label on it. A song like Give Give Give begins with the prettiest electronic bells and whistles this side of a Star Wars droid before layering on a ton of shoegazer guitar effects. Then over that Weikels insanely complicated rock-drumming busts down the door until Summers finally swaggers up to the microphone and starts singing and yelling like The Hives partying with Iggy. Thats barely within the first minute of the song. Over the course of the next five minutes Give Give Give twists, turns and generally just keeps layering sounds upon sounds until its so full the song can barely be contained, so it has to end. Thats the general blueprint for a Helio Sequence track. Summers and Weikel are inclined to use multiple layers of textured sound until the song builds into such a surreal mass of dementia it literally has to stop because it has nowhere left to go. Their songs would almost be exhausting to listen to if they werent so damn catchy and interesting.
When asked to describe their sound even the band members find themselves at a loss. Its really dancy. Its really noisy. Its really melodic, is Weikel's best description. Summers is a little more elaborate but not much. Some people say its way too out there to be pop. Its too progressive. But others say its just normal pop. I say its just rock music with a twist. People have made the weirdest comparisons to describe us. Its everything from, You guys sound like King Crimson meets Tears for Fears to Pink Floyd meets XTC. Its really weird.
In 1999 The Helio Sequence signed with their local independent label Cavity Search and released their debut Com Plex to rave reviews. They also began playing around the Pacific Northwest to enthusiastic crowds, building a fan base one show at a time. The bands 2001 sophomore effort, Young Effectuals further explored their schizophrenic leanings and proved to be something of landmark album for the boys. Young Effectuals is the sound of The Helio Sequence truly hitting the mark. With every song on full sensory overload there isnt an album out there quite like it. When we were doing Young Effectuals we just werent happy until every song was jam-packed with sounds, says Weikel. If the song wasnt full enough we could just feel it. So we kept layering more and more sounds until it felt right.
Yet The Helio Sequence are more than just talented musicians. Over the course of two albums now they have proved to be outstanding producers in their own right. Summers and Weikel spent an average of six months per album utilizing a computer as their studio. Its a painstakingly long process, but one that gives them total creative control as well as pushing them into new directions. We like to create in the studio, says Weikel. We always have songs that are entirely created in the studio. Half of the songs on the last two albums were completely made in the studio. Its just a different experience than writing a song live. We record everything ourselves because if we were paying a certain amount of money per hour of studio time I dont know if that creativity is going to come across as well.
These days I just dont think its necessary to spend thousands of dollars an hour on studio time unless that studio has a certain piece of equipment you need or comes with a certain producer you want to work with, says Summers. For the most part studios have become less important.
I think its the dawn of new age where if bands have their shit together and know how to utilize a computer then they can play a major part in the production of their albums, elaborates Weikel. They can be apart of the creative process of the album full circle; from beginning to end. You no longer need somebody to engineer it and make certain sounds for you. Now a band can get in there and say, This is the guitar sound I want. This is the drum sound I want. This is the sound I want for this song. Then you can sit down and make that sound happen and it costs next to nothing in the long run. When asked if they would ever consider working with an outside producer the band says they had thought about it for this new record, but ultimately couldnt think of anybody they would want to work with on such a limited budget. The danger of having an outside producer is you might get a guy who is like, I really want to be the producer in the sense that I want to help you write your songs, says Summers. I dont want somebody in there going, O.K. cut that keyboard part. That guitar part isnt right. Change it. No, we want to control the writing so we control what we sound like.
Probably the most obscure story about the Helio Sequence recording process is the tale of their first studio. Since the boys didnt have a place to record their first album they opted to make the record in the guitar shop where they were employed at the time. We would have to clear the floor of the store every night at 8 oclock and set up our monitoring system and all the rest of stuff, explains Weikel. Then we would plug everything in and record until 2 or 3 in the morning. Break all of our stuff down and hide it as best we could. If we ever left any evidence our boss would get really mad.
Yeah, says Summers. There was a stage in there that they would use for in-stores and we would hide our gear under there.
Our boss never knew that a lot of our stuff was under the stage the whole time. Towards the end of night at like 4 or 5 in the morning we would have to set the store back up. A lot of times it would be so late we would just sleep in the store for a few hours then wake up and open the shop.
These late night session yielded their debut album Com Plex, but the recording arrangements proved to be a little unstable. After our first tour we had to quit that job because it came to a point where our boss wouldnt let us leave for a month and a half or two months at a time, says Summers with a hardy laugh. So we kind of bit the bullet and bid that job goodbye. Now were doing what we can to make money by playing shows and just getting by. Well make rent this month, but probably not the month after that.
Were so poor its amazing, says Weikel.
Since the release of Young Effectuals the boys have opted to leave Cavity Search and are now in the process of shopping for a new label. They hope to have their third album out by the end of the year if they can work out a suitable distribution deal. When asked about the new material Summers says, I would say its step away from Young Effetuals. I dont want to say its more direct in the mix, but a lot of elements are closer in the mix. The vocals are a little bit more prominently mixed. Ive been focusing a lot on lyric writing and writing vocal parts for the songs on this one. Were kind of getting different things in there like some harmonica and stuff.
I think this new record is more of a direct reflection of our influences over the past few years, says Weikel. More Kraftwerk and Talking Heads than My Bloody Valentine and Mouse on Mars. Four songs are totally done and recorded then we have an additional 8 or 9 songs were still playing with.
Judging from the two new songs the band played at the Knitting Factory show the Helio Sequence still seem to be pushing themselves into new and unfamiliar territory. As a band their ambition is their greatest strength. If more bands showed as much drive and talent as The Helio Sequence then rock n roll as we know it just might be saved after all. Its all in the progression of the genre and The Helio Sequence are simply adding another chapter to the rock n roll novel of the past fifty years. Lets just hope the band doesnt get booted out of the bedroom above the garage before they can complete the next record.
I hope we can finish it before they kick us out, laughs Summers. The new album might be a five song record because we got kicked out.
But were not breaking any laws though, explains Weikel. By law we have to stop by six oclock in the evening sharp and we always do.
Its a really nice neighborhood too, giggles Brandon Summers. But its really loud until six.
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The Helio Sequence ::: Bonus Notes
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Here are some quotes that we couldnt fit in either the above article, nor in the article in Issue 4 of Under the Radar.
Members of Band Interviewed:
Brandon Summers vocals, guitar, programming
Benjamin Weikel - drums, programming, vocals
Under The Radar Interviewer: Marcus Kagler
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Best and Worst Gig
Marcus Kagler: Whats been your best gig?
Benjamin Weikel: I think my favorite gig was South by Southwest of 2002.
Brandon Summers: I would say so too.
Benjamin Weikel: It was the best gig in terms of having fun.
Brandon Summers: The people were just crazy at that show.
Benjamin Weikel: Everyone was so drunk and the place totally sold out.
Marcus Kagler: Where was it at?
Brandon Summers: The District Bar and Grill.
Benjamin Weikel: Not a big place but we had been there a few times so weve kind of developed this South by Southwest fan base you know. We always play there with a few of the same bands. The energy was just insane. Everyone was going totally nuts. It was so loud! The keyboards and the amps were right behind us because the stage was really skinning so everything was just pointing straight out.
Brandon Summers: We got about half way through the set when my guitar strap broke and my guitar just fell right off. I was like, What the hell?! I looked down and my guitar was on the ground and the strap was just broken in two.
Benjamin Weikel: So he picks it up really quick and is trying to play while hunched over and holding the guitar in his body. It was pretty funny. After that he runs off stage and hes gone and everyone is just yelling at me, PLAY SOME MORE! So Im the only one on stage and Im going, Uhhhhh...
Brandon Summers: I went back stage and tried to fix my guitar and all I could hear was Ben yelling, Where the hell is he?!
Benjamin Weikel: So I walked up to the mic and was like, Brandons guitar strap broke so we cant play anymore. And everyone was like, Fuck that!
Brandon Summers: But the manager of the place had some duct tape so I took my strap and duct taped it back onto my guitar. There was duct tape like all over the guitar. And Christopher Cooper from our record label is helping me do it and hes like, You got dude. Get back out there! So I put it on and I dont know if its going to work but it did and it was just an awesome gig.
Marcus Kagler: So what was the worst gig?
Benjamin Weikel: Atlanta on the Echobrain tour. Brandons processors broke.
Brandon Summers: That was on the first tour we ever did. It was a really interesting tour. The crowds were like these guys with leather jackets and mullets. Wearing their scorpions T-shirts you know.
Brandon Weikel: We never should have been on that tour because Echobrain sounds more like Soundgarden or Def Lepard or something. We dont. The show just wasnt fun.
Label Hunting
Brandon Summers: Were looking for a label to put out this third record.
Marcus Kagler: Have you been courted by any labels?
Brandon Summers: No, not at all. Everyone will be like, Dude, I love your band. And well be sitting there going, Thanks. So do you want to put out a record together? Its weird. We really want a label that has some distribution for this one.
Com Plex Nightmares
Marcus Kagler: Do you have any dreams or recurring nightmares?
Brandon Summers: Thats really weird because some one just asked that question when we were in San Francisco.
Marcus Kagler: Really?
Benjamin Weikel: Yeah. How bizarre is that?
Brandon Summers: Do I have any dreams or recurring nightmares? Yeah, actually, yes. I dont know if its a nightmare but its a recurring dream. The only recurring dream Ive ever had. Im in this department store/insane asylum and theres rusty clothes racks everywhere like at a Gap or something. And theres people walking around, not in straight jackets, but those surgical robes, and theyre all older people and theyre walking around with vacant looks in their eyes. And Im running around trying to find my way out and I know there is like a resistance force outside of the building made up of people who are on my side. [everybody laughs here] Theyre all much younger than me like 12 or 15 or something. Theyll always be tipping me off like when Im running away from an in-patient person theyll appear out of nowhere and say, Run through that elevator shaft over there. And I trust them but Im still not sure whether theyre playing for the other side or not. But Ill go through the elevator shaft anyway and get away or have to climb through something. Sometimes there are these guys in black that are chasing me around through the department store. There is this room at the top of the building that has a very LA club atmosphere where its got that low lit I drink expensive wine atmosphere with velvet everywhere and stuff. [everybody laughs more] But there are these stairs in that room that I cant go up for some reason although I feel like I should. But as soon as I enter that room I freak out and am like, Ive got to get out of this room. Then I wake up usually.
Marcus Kagler: Thats very detailed.
Benjamin Weikel: My dream might explain whats wrong with our band. My dream doesnt make any sense. Theres not a story to it or anything. Its just the dream Ive been having since I was a kid. I have this image of a being thats as infinitely tiny and thin as it is infinitely large. Its really weird and sometimes when I listen to music itll turn into this image in my head. Its strange.
Brandon Summers: Sometimes when I listen to music and Im really tripping out Ill be like, This music is so hard and dense but its also so soft and I could just- Its weird. [all laugh]
The Don Henley Cliche
Marcus Kagler: So do both of you guys do vocals?
Benjamin Weikel: Yeah. On Give Give Give I sing the main verse on echo block and I sing the last song on the record [Young Effectuals]. But I cant sing live because I play the drums too hard.
Brandon Summers: He cant do the Phil Collins.
Marcus Kagler: Or you could do the Don Henley head mic thing.
Benjamin Weikel: No, no. No head mics allowed! [all laugh] The only thing the audience would hear would be the heavy breathing. I cant get the breathing down. I sing very softly and Im not really a vocal person. Anybody can sing in the studio.
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