The
animated band is led by sometime devil worshipper Murdoc. 2-D (Damon’s
alter ego) is the lead vocalist and god’s gift to women.
Russel is a big ape like American rapper (aka Del). Finally there’s
Noodle, the ten year old Japanese martial arts expert (sung by
Cibo Mato’s Miho Hatori).
I met with the real people behind the band, during their press tour,
on a picnic table outside Virgin Records Beverly Hills offices. Damon
was recovering from a hang over and didn’t really have much to
say. Most of the time we couldn’t really be bothered to answer
the questions. Dan was always game for a joke. It was animator Jamie
Hewlett who came to the fore and seemed to be the natural leader of the
project, as you will see:
What came first, the cartoons
or the music?
Damon Albarn: Neither.
Jamie Hewlett: They came together.
Dan “The Automator” Nakamura: The
band came first, right?
Jamie: We had the idea to work
together on something, and obviously me being
an artist and him being a musician, it was going
to be an animated band. Seeing as though there
were so many manufactured bands in the charts,
we thought, ‘why not manufacture something
properly and do something decent for a change.
So we spent a year getting all the ideas together
really, sort of preparing it all. Then we got
Dan in. We lived together, we shared a flat in
London and we wanted to do something together,
something different.
Do you
see this as a one off project, or are there going
to be future Gorillaz albums?
Damon: It’s a bit too kind of
evolved to be a one of thing. It’s taken two and
half years of our lives, almost continuously so I think
it’s an on going thing and it’s very organic.
Jamie: I’ll
end up with Murdoc living in a big mansion with a whole rack of TV’s,
sitting there injecting anphetimines into his bollocks and going
insane probably. Or maybe not.
Damon: Or maybe not.
Jamie: The whole thing with
Gorillaz is that it takes money to do everything,
from the live show to the animation to the
music to everything. If people are into it
and it’s successful we can keep doing
it, as long as we enjoy it. So it was never
meant to be a one off novelty thing, we’re
already thinking about the second album and
stuff. It will go on as long as it’s
good and we’re enjoying it. And as soon
as it starts to be crap we shall think of some
lovely way of ending it all.
The
interesting thing about Gorillaz is that technically
you wouldn’t have to age them, they could
always be young.
Damon: That’s the virture of the
cartoons thing, you know. It’s like, they could
do what they want to do.
Jamie: I think I will age them though.
Damon: It goes really kind of, sort
of in the face of cartoons, aging.
Jamie: Noodle will be a teenager
by the time it’s over, definatly. She’ll
be a sixteen year old, developed in every way.
Dan: She’ll be like
the fucking Tomb Raider girl.
Jamie: The possibilities are
endless. We keep realizing every day, we keep
adding to it and adding to it. With the web
site and everything. It’s just, do we
have enough ideas; it’s going alright,
we haven’t run out yet.
What
can we expect from the live show, I know the band performs
behind a screen, while projecting the cartoon images on the
screen.
Jamie: The main the problem is.....
Dan: The screens two-dimensional and if you’re looking sideways
you can’t see the screen.
Jamie: We’ve come to realize that we’ve come up with something
that’s a bit ahead of its’ time and the technology doesn’t
exist to do everything we want to do, so the live show was something
we had to really think hard about. What we’ve come up with so far
is a giant cinema screen that we project images onto and the band play
behind the screen and every now and then you see the silhouettes of them.
But that will become more advance as time goes on and we’re sort
of updating it. By the time we come to America to play, which hopefully
we will do, we should have a pretty polished off event. What I’d
ideally like, is in a couple of years time to be able to have the characters
standing on stage, playing guitars and banging their drums. They’d
be some guy sitting in a booth with a whole rack of buttons.
You’d have like 3-D
projected animated images or something?
Jamie: Yeah. We spoke to an animator who reckoned that Damon could dress
up in this suit with loads of pads on it and stand behind a screen jumping
around, and 2-D would appear on stage doing it, but I reckon he’s
lying. But I’m sure that technology is in the works somewhere.
Damon: It wouldn’t have to be me surely.
Dan: If you put little electric shock devices on every joint, I’m
sure you could get any guy to dance like 2-D or Murdoc. (laughs)
Jamie: That’s torture though. The Gorillaz show will become a huge
torture event.
Dan: Well, you wouldn’t be suffering, you’d be pushing the
buttons. (laughs)
Jamie: This whole thing has forced to think hard about how to do everything
and that makes it fun I suppose. It’s hard work. It’s a full
time job at the moment, really. We do the internet site from our studios.
We program it everyday, we add to it everyday. We’ve got to a point
in England now where we don’t get mentioned too much, which is
great. The characters do all their own interviews and editorials in magazines.
And Penthouse want Murdoc to do a five page spread with some page three
stunners, and it’s sort of taken off finally. And for English people
to get into like that.Damon:
In his underpants.
Jamie: In his dirty, piss stained underpants with naked women. For the
English public to get into it that much is encouraging. I would’ve
thought they’d be sort of the audience to most likely not want
to get into it.
They’d be more
cynical about it?
Jamie: Yeah, absolutely. I imagine American audiences, I don’t
know, it’s the kind of thing they could accept quite easily. But
in England and in Europe it’s going down really well. It started
off with us getting mentioned a lot, but now we’re sort of fading
into the background. And we’re here for this just to get the ball
rolling really, and sort of explain the whole thing. Then hopefully the
characters will come over.
Here’s
a silly question about the characters: who do you think
would win in a fight, Noodle or Hong Kong Phooey?
Dan: Noodle.
Damon: Absolutely.Jamie: Mrudoc wouldn’t win any fights would he,
not unless he had a baseball bat. No, Noodle would win, because Hong
Kong Phuoie would be stuck in a cabinet, wouldn’t he. So she’d
just push the cabinet out the window porbably. If she was fighting Spot
the Cat (who always rescued Hong Kong Phuoie) it might be different.
Which cartoon
character would 2D most likely date?
Dan: I think Daphne from Scooby Doo.
Jamie: I think we’d probably go do what Archie never did and fuck
both Betty and Veronica.
Dan: We’d run through Josie and all her Pussycats.
(To Damon) do you agree with that?
Damon: Uh, I can’t, I’m not really bothered who he....know
what I mean.
Are there any
plans for a Gorillaz cartoon, movie or comic book?
Jamie: Well, we’ve been approached about all of the above. And
um, I didn’t really want to do a cartoon show, because it seemed
to obvious, but we’re thinking about a film maybe. We’re
sort of in the early stages of wondering whether or not we could do a
film.
Dan: It would be like Apocalypse Now.
Jamie: Yeah, that would be great. If we can come up with an idea that’s
really fucking good. Because I think animated films are pretty fun, unless
you’re talking about Toy Story or Akiria. If we can think of a
good idea. I think we might have a good idea actually, so we might do
that. We’ve been offered money from people, who want to give us
money, which is nice.
Would
it be totally animated, or would it be the animated characters
in the real world?
Jamie: It would be a bit of everything really. A bit of live action in
there and a bit of animation. I think making people watch an hour and
a half of animation can be hard work.
Dan: It could be the ultimate version of Meet the Feebles.
Jamie: Meet the Feebles? Is that the guys who did Bad Taste? That’s
the Muppet Show with chainsaws isn’t it?
Dan: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jamie: There you go, Meet the Feebles and Apocalypse Now. And then you
know, you could turn the score into the second album. We’ve sort
of been chewing around ideas at the moment. Because we are going to do
a second album, but we want to do it differently. There’s no point
in peresenting it the same way we’ve done this one. So it’s
just the best way of doing it.
Who would do the
voices, would you do the voice of 2D?
Damon: No.
Dan: Gorillaz would do their own voices.
Jamie: They exist already. So that’s all sorted.
Damon: We’re pretty far down the line in Europe with it.
So you have voices for interviews?
Jamie: Yeah, and they do a lot of online interviews and stuff. They’ve
been on the radio loads in England, which has been quite funny.
How do they answer
the questions? Do you write the answers ahead of time?
Jamie: No they answer them.
They answer them in character
and just come up with whatever?
Jamie: Well, with a bit of promoting. Yeah absolutely.
Do you worry that Murdoc’s ties
with Satanism will be a problem for the American Christian Right?
Jamie: No, I hope it really upsets them. He’s not really a full
on nasty Satanist, he’s more into Paganism and stuff, and the Wicker
Man, which is always a little bit different from that.
Damon: He’s a bit mixed up really, like most of us. It’s
like a sweet shop, religion these days, isn’t it.
Jamie: You know if it causes a stir with whoever in America then that’s
great, it’s good publicity isn’t it. He’s only a fucking
cartoon character really. That would be funny, I’d really like
that, actually.
Dan: I think Murdoc was a fan of Marilyn Manson for awhile until we had
to tell him that that really wasn’t all that cool.
Who do the rest
of Blur feel about the Gorillaz project?
Damon: You’d have to ask them. You would yeah.
You haven’t talked to them about it?
Damon: Not a great deal, no.
Jamie: They’re on summer camp at the moment, Blur. (laughs)
Dan: Building canoes.
Jamie: Learning pottery.
Dan: Where you weave those wonderful wallets.
So was the musical collaboration difficult to come about, with the different
styles?
Dan: Well actually, we started out with the same style at the very beginning.
Damon: Yeah.
Dan: Even when we were kids. I mean, we didn’t know each other
then, but we both studied the Suzuki method of the violin for many years.
It’s a very specific way to learn classical music. Since that time
we’ve obviously branched out into other things a lot, but it all
kind of comes back to that.
Finally, what
are your personal favorite comic books and cartoons besides
the Gorillaz, and Tank Girl of course?
Dan: Milk and Cheese!
Jamie: Well I’m a big Daffy Duck fan. And I like MoJo JoJo of the
Powerpuff Girls. And Him, he’s pretty cool. And Dexter’s
Lab. I love animation, I love cartoons. I don’t read many comics
anymore though, having stopped drawing them. Hell Boy’s cool. And
I heard a rumor that Ang Lee’s supposed to be directing the Hulk
movie, which I’m very excited about. Somebody might get it right
for a change.
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